[This is the weapon created by humans, this is the civilization created by humans. ]
[I, Walter, challenge you on behalf of mankind. ]
[God, come and test whether humans are qualified to live! ]
The above is the original line. Unless I made a typo, there should be no changes.
By the way, some settings are also mentioned in the Collapse Classroom in this chapter.
{It's no wonder that Xilin is so angry at Walter. As a [Civilization Destroyer], she neither recognizes the value of civilization nor has she been hurt by civilization's technology.}
{If Walter represents civilization, then Xilin is the victim of civilization and the revenge against civilization.}
Based on the above plot and settings, it is not difficult to see some actual situations that are completely different from the rumors.
It was not Lao Yang who was provoking. In fact, from the very beginning, it was Xilin who took the initiative to kill. It was Xilin who denied humanity in a rage after failing to kill. Lao Yang's words of declaring war on behalf of humanity were made when Xilin was jumping up and down in anger after failing to kill. Walter responded to Xilin's angry statement.
At the same time, the setting clearly points out that Xilin's revenge is against civilization - it was the fate of the Tower of Babylon that messed up her mentality.
No one here should come out and say something like "Walter shouldn't use human weapons to provoke Xilin", right?
Just a brief summary.
1. Walter hadn’t met Xilin when she was about to destroy the world.
2. The talk about the expert on collapse is pure bullshit. It was Xilin who took the initiative to kill people, and it was Xilin who provoked. Only after Xilin killed people and provoked others did Walter make a corresponding response.
3. The setting clearly points out that the reason why Xilin wants revenge on civilization is because of the Tower of Babylon, not the rumor that "Xilin initially only wanted to kill the man of destiny and blamed Walter for provoking her."
Of course, I know some people will not give up and want to say [Xilin was almost influenced by Cecilia, but in the end it was Walter who intervened and broke her mentality, and he still broke down the talks. ]
Of course, I would like to insert another rumor here that is not really a rumor.
Lao Yang didn’t win the first battle against Xilin in a one-on-one fight, but in a group fight.
In fact, Lao Yang was considered an iron-blooded auxiliary in the second collapse, but his combat power was indeed not that good.
In the plot, Lao Yang also has a clear positioning of himself. When he first fought against Xilin, he really didn't think he could win in a one-on-one fight. His idea was to [just hold her back a little longer].
At that time, Lao Yang was almost beaten to death, but Einstein and Tesla's silver bullets came firing at him, so Lao Yang finally had a chance to successfully kill Xilin.
Okay, let’s start a new paragraph and review the subsequent plot.
Continuing from the last chapter, let’s take a look at the follow-up plot of the second collapse.
Starting from the 48th episode of the second collapse, when Siegfried slashed Bella and was captured by Sirin, what exactly did the so-called collapse expert Walter "talk" about in the plot?
As of Chapter 52, Walter had not spoken to Silin at all. When he appeared, he asked Siegfried to open his eyes and wake up.
Of course Siegfried remembered this incident and thought it was a nightmare.
Continuing to read on, up to chapter 53, the relationship between Silin and Cecilia is indeed continuing to heat up, and in this chapter Walter appears again and prepares to wake up Siegfried.
Siegfried roared out of anger, causing the glass on this side of the store to shatter.
At the time, Xilin thought the glass was a minor issue, but Cecilia rushed over to protect Xilin.
This is actually an opportunity for the relationship between the two to further warm up.
Unlike the so-called rumors, although Walter, an expert in breaking up negotiations, had no plans in this regard, his actions were promoting the warming of the relationship between the two.
It continued like this, and until now Siegfried hadn't woken up.
In the reality of this plot, Bella was defeated after Nicholas attacked the wound caused by the Holy Fire Judge.
Then the plot came to episode 57. Just when Celine was a little moved, as soon as Bella died, Celine turned against her and prepared to kill Siegfried.
Then Cecilia exposed her skills in order to save Siegfried, which led Xilin to realize that Cecilia was not controlled by Yu Duchen, and thus thought that Cecilia was lying.
Let’s summarize below.
From the time Celine entered the illusion to the time Celine and the Siegfrieds completely broke up, Walter did not say a word to Celine, and his actions of trying to wake Siegfried up indirectly led to the warming of the relationship between Celine and Cecilia.
The reason why Celine fell out with Siegfried and his wife was entirely because Bella was killed outside [of course, this cannot be blamed on Nicholas and Kira. The dragon is killing people and not allowing them to be killed, right? I have to say it’s a good thing to kill].
In other words, given the fact that the dragon would turn against her once she died, Xilin was destined not to live a good life with Cecilia because of this incident.
So what did Walter do later - after Cecilia and Siegfried were attacked, he was the first to jump out and help the two retreat.
After Xilin caught up, Walter chose to stay behind to cover their retreat.
Even in the process of being separated, Walter still held up Xilin for a while. Outside, Einstein and Tesla had already activated Alahato with the Moonlight Throne.
Although the initial plan failed, the Moonlight Throne also successfully weakened the connection between Sirin and the Herrscher Core.
It was weakened to the point where Einstein could manipulate Arahato to strip away the core of Sirin's Herrscher.
After this, Alahato successfully stripped away the Thunder of Conquest, so from this moment on, Sirin only had five cores.
Here is a rumor to be refuted. The rumor online that Siegfried beat up the six-core Xilin is probably because people forgot this part of the plot. The Lei Lu core has already been taken away by Mao.
In addition, what is stripped here is the core of the Herrscher of Thunder. In fact, according to the plot, the six cores of the Herrscher of Thunder are the most difficult to strip. The remaining five cores each count as 20%.
As long as the core of the Ruler of Reason is stripped away, Walter's core will be out of Xilin's control and may be able to delay more time in the consciousness space. Later, the Anti-Entropy Group may be able to strip off the second core.
Even if it wasn't the core of the Herrscher of Reason that was stripped away, as long as the core of the Herrscher of Death was stripped away, Sirin would be killed instantly by Theresa. Even after Theresa opened the Divine Grace Barrier, Sirin's core energy of the Herrscher of Void might not have a chance to run away - the Divine Grace Barrier was so unreasonable.
It can be said that the Anti-Entropy Team led by Lao Yang really threatened Xilin this time, it was purely because of bad luck.
As for the breakdown of the talks... after reading the plot summary, no one should be saying that the talks broke down, right?
There's no point in even talking about it.
In the past, when people talked about Lao Yang's collapse expert, it was just a funny joke at most. Maybe because there are more new people joining the comics in recent years and they haven't read the second collapse comics carefully, so they started to spread and diffuse this funny joke seriously.
Next one.
Rumor - The Shaniyat clan was created by Otto.
This is a confirmed rumor, and the source is probably because of Enoli's speech in the Purple Iris chapter.
[The surname given to me by Lord Otto: Shaniyat].
Let me first state the conclusion. Originally, granting a surname can only be said to be the power of the person who grants the surname. There has never been a saying that [he granted someone **surname = he created ** race]. The emergence of this rumor is purely because the person created the equation and then started to force YY. It is a conclusion that has basically no basis.
And combined with the plot at that time, Otto's destined position before Tianming's Eastern Expedition was - son of the bishop + accompanying military doctor.
It is true that he worked in medicine after returning, but there is no plot that shows how much his position was promoted.
I think those who praise Otto will say that Otto's father did not value him [which is of course true], but why can't they think of how the son of a bishop who is not valued can "create" a race?
How outrageous.
In addition, judging from the subsequent plot, Otto's mother is the high-ranking member of the Shaniat clan, and it was he who asked his mother to give him the surname Enoli.
If we have to say that the relationship between these two is that of sworn siblings, Kallen also mentioned "your sister Enoli" in the plot. The Shaniyat clan of the Tenmi Gosan family has existed since the beginning, and Otto is even a member of it.
Next one.
Rumor: Without Otto, the Black Death would have killed all humans at that time, and without Otto, humans would not have survived the past 500 years.
In fact, there is no need to debunk the rumor, because anyone with a discerning eye can see that it is pure bullshit.
But considering that so many people have repeated the same thing, and the white noise bomb tactics are beginning to show obvious signs, I have to at least say something when refuting the rumor.
Let’s take a look at what the setting mentioned in the plot says.
It is clearly mentioned in the second episode of the second Honkai, Honkai Classroom, that [in the Honkai world], the Black Death swept across Europe, [because humans were unable to resist it medically], and thus killed one-third of the population of Europe.
The mention of the collapsed world here is enough to show that this is not something that happens in the real world.
Yes, it is clearly stated here that the Black Death in the Collapse World was never dealt with by Otto, and it was specifically emphasized that [it was because humans were medically unable to resist it] - I tell you explicitly that what Otto did was of no use.
Does this conflict with the plot in the Purple Kite chapter where Rioto saved Enoli?
The answer is obviously no.
If we read the Purple Iris chapter, it is not difficult to find that people like Enoli who can be saved are actually a minority.
What was the situation at that time? The Black Death was sweeping the country, and Otto was working hard to develop potions [he was really doing good things, and he deserves a thumbs up]. However, the problem was that not many people could tolerate the potion, and there was another big problem.
Even if the potion was stable, Otto couldn't mass-produce it. The technology tree at that time was still in the Middle Ages. He had no choice but to mass-produce the medicine to save other people.
Under such circumstances, the medicine made by Otto is destined to be a "special medicine that cannot be mass-produced and is risky."
Given the level of corruption among the top leaders of the Mandate of Heaven at the time, this kind of medicine would definitely be used first on people related to them, and then on those who sold a lot of indulgences. Ordinary civilians wanted to use it - you're overthinking it.
Otto's action this time is indeed worthy of praise, but the effect is not as good as everyone imagined. The unstable efficacy and the inability to mass-produce the potion mean that this thing can only be used by a small number of people. In the face of the Black Death that killed one-third of the European population, are the few people Otto saved enough to fill the gaps in their health?
So I have always been curious about why some people boast that Otto suppressed the Black Death and saved the Europeans, and then boast that without Otto, mankind would not have survived to this day.
The official setting clearly tells you that [because humans are unable to resist it medically], the Black Death killed one-third of the population in Europe.
Otto's medicine was not as powerful as they boasted, and Europe was not saved by Otto. People really died.
As for saying that humans wouldn’t have survived until five hundred years ago without Otto, that’s pure bullshit. I won’t say more about it.
Just look at Otto's record against the Black Death and you will know that those who praise him are just talking nonsense.
Next one.
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I don't know if this can be considered a rumor-debunking, but I'm putting it here anyway.
Kiana and Mei knew each other/didn't know each other before the third Honkai Impact.
There are both plots, and when I wrote this book I chose the one I knew.
This incident can be traced back to the short animation of the Thunderbolt Awakening chapter in the past. The Thunderbolt Awakening chapter mentioned that Mei met Kiana when she was being bullied.
And then what happens next - eat it.
When Mei was chatting with Raven, and when Mei was chatting with Kiana, it was mentioned that "I didn't have many friends in the past" and "Mei and I were not very familiar with each other at that time."
I suggest that the editors who wrote these two plots have a
These are all I can think of for now. Let me see if there are any other rumors to be dispelled or conflicts to be set up. I will do a second episode then.
Role Positioning [Otto Special Issue]
1. Introduction
In fact, anyone who has read this book should know what will be in this special issue on character positioning.
But I still want to remind you that if you particularly like Otto, don't watch this, it will make you feel uncomfortable.
The following is the text.
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2. Opening remarks
Let’s first bring the topic back to the middle and early period between the completion of the previous book and the beginning of this book.
After the last book ended, I mentioned in the character setting of the main character that at that time I was conceiving another book in which Kevin, Kallen, and Siegfried were from the same era [second setting]. Otto was on the side of the main character because Kallen was not dead.
Of course, I felt that this book had many problems, so I let it die in the end.
But this was enough to show that my dislike for Otto was not that serious at that time.
At that time, I had similar thoughts to some of Hedgehog Cat’s readers now. Otto did what he did and died, so let it go and I’m too lazy to say anything about it.
Later, when I was writing this new book, I started to review some of the main storylines and looked at other Honkai Impact 3rd gen fiction on this site at the time, and found some problems.
I always feel that Otto's positioning among readers seems to be getting more and more outrageous.
Here I would like to mention some comments I saw when I started playing Honkai Impact 3 or 4 years ago.
Around the end of 2020 to the middle of 2021, before the Twilight of Fools arc was released, I saw the statement that "Otto suppressed technology to a certain level to suppress the collapse."
A lot of people said this. At that time, I hadn't read too many settings and just went through the plot. I really believed it like an ordinary Honkai Impact 3rd player/Honkai Impact 3rd reader.
However, when I checked the information later, I found that in the same year of 2020, in the question-and-answer setting of Zhejianlu, miHoYo said some things personally through Otto's mouth.
When Otto entered the all-encompassing library of Void Ten Thousand Treasury, he did not have indexing permissions. When Otto flipped through the books, they had no covers and no indexing permissions, so it was a remarkable thing that he could dig out a lot of information.
The premise of this sentence at that time was that the Q&A mentioned that Otto's Void Bank did not have the information on the [Key of God] and [Moonlight Throne], and the Valkyrie training method was obtained from Fu Hua. This is enough to show that although Otto was dressed as a Rakshasa in the Q&A at that time, when he said this, he was obviously talking about things five hundred years later.
